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face="Tahoma">Thanks, Frank.<br>
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I'm fine with this - we can work this in the program. <br>
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No problem with running the 1st day of the tzNOG workshop in
parallel to SAFNOG/EANOG/TISPA.<br>
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Mark.<br>
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<p>Hi all,</p>
<p>maybe to explain a little bit more.</p>
<p>We have serious push from the regulator to a) get IXPs in all
kinds of locations operational and b) all operators operating
in & around these locations MUST connect to these IXPs. In
fact senior regulators visiting IXPs and checking!<br>
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<p>we know plugging a cable in doesn't make traffic flow...<br>
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several national operators in TZ do currently show up at several
TZ IXPs.<br>
And some less experienced folk as questions: how do we do that
so it doesn't loop (paraphrased).<br>
<br>
PCH has the nice presentations about the hot potatoes. And I
have told Nishal of the need - he's warned.<br>
<br>
Not necessarily inside the SafNOG program, possibly the day
following it, I would like us to get the right people between
"enable" and decision-making in a room and get that cleared up.
And maybe to have it less publicly advertised might help
attendance and active participation.<br>
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<br>
<br>
That 2nd item, v6, was basically to do a hackathon very similar
to Dakar.<br>
Sit someone down (who has v6 capable upstream(s)), who has the
buy-in and approval for doing changes (if needed) , and go
through the steps.<br>
Maybe 2nd day after official SafNOG program, or 2nd half of
first day.<br>
<br>
I strongly believe these are both different target audience from
TzNOG students.<br>
<br>
We can / should look at both separately. At the moment (in my
mind) not asking anything of SafNOG. But some of Nishal ;-)<br>
<br>
Frank<br>
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<div dir="ltr">this looks good.
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<div>TISPA would like to add two workshops </div>
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<div>1-<span
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to explain the logics of effective routing (with many
IXPs) to</span><br
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the ISPs in TZ connecting to several IXPs. We are
having some issues now that we have many IXs.</span><br
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from Frank " last thursday at ipv6 taskforce we had
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"do it, now, here, this way" - voluntarily - during
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text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> Thanks, John.<br>
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After all is said and done, I'm proposing:<br>
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<li>24th - 26th - conference<br>
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<li>26th - conference + workshop (parallel sessions)</li>
<li>27th - 29th - workshop</li>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Good
day Mark </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">And
apologies, travel has kept me away from
emails for the last two weeks.</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">I
am working to ensure I am in Tanzania the
entire duration. Just for clarity are you
proposing:</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">24<sup>th</sup>
– 26<sup>th</sup> – Meeting</span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">27<sup>th</sup>
– 29<sup>th</sup> – Training or </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">26<sup>th</sup>
– 29<sup>th</sup> - Training – to allow
for 4 days training</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Meantime
for EANOG we will update our site , I
believe you got a logo and as soon as the
dates are ready also try and get a few
students out to TZ.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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Mark Tinka <a
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<b>Sent:</b> Monday, June 18, 2018
12:43 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Abibu R. Ntahigiye <a
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href="mailto:abibu@tznic.or.tz"
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [safnog-oc]
SAFNOG/EANOG/tzNOG Announcement -
Final Draft</span></p>
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18/Jun/18 09:29, Abibu R. Ntahigiye
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
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We agreed for the tzNOG training to be
for 4 days (26th to 29th Sept 2018). </span></p>
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Naturally, we don't want the conference
and the tzNOG workshop to clash.<br>
<br>
I am really keen on doing a 3-day meeting
this year for SAFNOG, especially since we
also have EANOG on-board. Is there any
chance we can have tzNOG running 27th -
29th?<br>
<br>
Alternatively, we could only have the
clash on the 26th, where the tzNOG either
starts the whole day, or starts in the
afternoon.<br>
<br>
Grateful if the OC members can be more
active in discussing these plans, as it is
delaying making announcements to the
community. E-mail will be the our most
active mode of communication. <br>
<br>
Also, once we put something out into the
wild, it's almost impossible to pull it
back, so let's participate actively
please. Thanks.<br>
<br>
Mark.</span></p>
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