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    <p>Hi all,</p>
    <p>maybe to explain a little bit more.</p>
    <p>We have serious push from the regulator to a) get IXPs in all
      kinds of locations operational and b) all operators operating in
      & around these locations MUST connect to these IXPs. In fact
      senior regulators visiting IXPs and checking!<br>
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    <p>we know plugging a cable in doesn't make traffic flow...<br>
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    several national operators in TZ do currently show up at several TZ
    IXPs.<br>
    And some less experienced folk as questions: how do we do that so it
    doesn't loop (paraphrased).<br>
    <br>
    PCH has the nice presentations about the hot potatoes. And I have
    told Nishal of the need - he's warned.<br>
    <br>
    Not necessarily inside the SafNOG program, possibly the day
    following it, I would like us to get the right people between
    "enable" and decision-making in a room and get that cleared up. And
    maybe to have it less publicly advertised might help attendance and
    active participation.<br>
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    <br>
    That 2nd item, v6, was basically to do a hackathon very similar to
    Dakar.<br>
    Sit someone down (who has v6 capable upstream(s)), who has the
    buy-in and approval for doing changes (if needed) , and go through
    the steps.<br>
    Maybe 2nd day after official SafNOG program, or 2nd half of first
    day.<br>
    <br>
    I strongly believe these are both different target audience from
    TzNOG students.<br>
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    We can / should look at both separately. At the moment (in my mind)
    not asking anything of SafNOG. But some of Nishal ;-)<br>
    <br>
    Frank<br>
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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 6/19/2018 12:36 PM, Erik Rowberg
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      <div dir="ltr">this looks good.
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        <div>TISPA would like to add two workshops </div>
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        <div>1-<span
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            to explain the logics of effective routing (with many IXPs)
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            the ISPs in TZ connecting to several IXPs.  We are having
            some issues now that we have many IXs.</span><br
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              from Frank  " last thursday at ipv6 taskforce we had the
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              "do it, now, here, this way" - voluntarily - during the
              same time."  We want it done there and then.</span></span></div>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jun 18, 2018 at 2:45 PM, Mark
          Tinka <span dir="ltr"><<a
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              text="#000000" bgcolor="#FFFFFF"> Thanks, John.<br>
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              After all is said and done, I'm proposing:<br>
              <ul>
                <li>24th - 26th - conference<br>
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                <li>26th - conference + workshop (parallel sessions)</li>
                <li>27th - 29th - workshop</li>
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                  <p>Mark.<br>
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                  <div class="m_-2589347492036578847moz-cite-prefix">On
                    18/Jun/18 12:00, John Gitau Njoroge (jgitau) wrote:<br>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Good
                          day Mark </span></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">And
                          apologies, travel has kept me away from emails
                          for the last two weeks.</span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">I
                          am working to ensure I am in Tanzania the
                          entire duration. Just for clarity are you
                          proposing:</span></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">24<sup>th</sup>
                          – 26<sup>th</sup> – Meeting</span></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">27<sup>th</sup>
                          – 29<sup>th</sup> – Training or </span></p>
                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">26<sup>th</sup>
                          – 29<sup>th</sup> -  Training – to allow for 4
                          days training</span></p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">Meantime
                          for EANOG we will update our site , I believe
                          you got a logo and as soon as the dates are
                          ready also try and get a few students out to
                          TZ.</span></p>
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                      <p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1f497d">JG</span></p>
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                              Mark Tinka <a
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                              <b>Sent:</b> Monday, June 18, 2018 12:43
                              PM<br>
                              <b>To:</b> Abibu R. Ntahigiye <a
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                                href="mailto:abibu@tznic.or.tz"
                                target="_blank" moz-do-not-send="true"><abibu@tznic.or.tz></a>;
                              <a
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                                href="mailto:safnog-oc@safnog.org"
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                              <b>Subject:</b> Re: [safnog-oc]
                              SAFNOG/EANOG/tzNOG Announcement - Final
                              Draft</span></p>
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                            style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">On
                            18/Jun/18 09:29, Abibu R. Ntahigiye wrote:</span></p>
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                            style="font-family:"Tahoma",sans-serif">Members,
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                            We agreed for the tzNOG training to be for 4
                            days (26th to 29th Sept 2018). </span></p>
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                          Naturally, we don't want the conference and
                          the tzNOG workshop to clash.<br>
                          <br>
                          I am really keen on doing a 3-day meeting this
                          year for SAFNOG, especially since we also have
                          EANOG on-board. Is there any chance we can
                          have tzNOG running 27th - 29th?<br>
                          <br>
                          Alternatively, we could only have the clash on
                          the 26th, where the tzNOG either starts the
                          whole day, or starts in the afternoon.<br>
                          <br>
                          Grateful if the OC members can be more active
                          in discussing these plans, as it is delaying
                          making announcements to the community. E-mail
                          will be the our most active mode of
                          communication. <br>
                          <br>
                          Also, once we put something out into the wild,
                          it's almost impossible to pull it back, so
                          let's participate actively please. Thanks.<br>
                          <br>
                          Mark.</span></p>
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